Bug 379 - Create wiki page for recruitment letter to Universities (& etc.) to point to
Summary: Create wiki page for recruitment letter to Universities (& etc.) to point to
Status: RESOLVED DUPLICATE of bug 380
Alias: None
Product: Libre-SOC Organisation
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Planning (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Hardware: PC Linux
: --- enhancement
Assignee: Cole Poirier
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Reported: 2020-06-12 17:09 BST by Cole Poirier
Modified: 2020-06-12 18:09 BST (History)
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Description Cole Poirier 2020-06-12 17:09:10 BST
Cole Poirier:
> > Will also work on a blurb for soliciting new members, and research some
> > possible methods of publicising our search for memebers.

lkcl:
> my partner marie has a contact at HK University, please do point her at it
> when you have it written. (a short wiki page is great).

Will do, thanks this is a great place to start. Also will be contacting U of T, my sister is a 3rd year ECE student there. Planning on contacting as many CS and ECE listservs as I can find. Is this permitted? Are there any procedures, regulations, or recommendations when it comes to cold contacting mailing list registrars with a request to share our letter informing students (and faculty?) of the opportunity to "work on complex and interesting libre hardware/software and receive tax deductible charitable donations for their contributions?"

After university engineering and computer science mailing lists, maybe I should try tech and hardware forums? Perhaps both the professional and enthusiast tech forums, because people like Jacob and I watch things like Gamer's Nexus on youtube, so there may be others that we can find there?

> we have something on the front page already however it is embedded *in* the
> front page and so is not really clear.

I agree. I'll write something up and post it on the wiki, will post the link here when its up.

> we also cannot call it "jobs" because sigh that implies salaries, per-hour
> payments, employment, that we will cover their insurance costs, holidays
> and so on.  wark-wark.

Don't worry, I got on that same page... months ago? It's hard to forget when it's been discussed so many times on list.
Comment 1 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton 2020-06-12 17:25:45 BST
(In reply to Cole Poirier from comment #0)
> Cole Poirier:
> > > Will also work on a blurb for soliciting new members, and research some
> > > possible methods of publicising our search for memebers.
> 
> lkcl:
> > my partner marie has a contact at HK University, please do point her at it
> > when you have it written. (a short wiki page is great).
> 
> Will do, thanks this is a great place to start. Also will be contacting U of
> T, my sister is a 3rd year ECE student there. Planning on contacting as many
> CS and ECE listservs as I can find. Is this permitted?

they're generally unwelcome except in this case we actually have donations available.

it is however necessary to carefully research each organisation and find out.

for example, the FSF takes a dim view of recruitment spam on its losts.  they have a special "jobs" board.  you have to give a small donation to use it.

except... we are not *looking* for "jobs" because we are not a commercial entity.

sigh.

so on that one we fall between two stools.

yes, basically, each organisation will have some interaction guidelines, and i would recommend contacting the organisers privately to ask their advice.

this will take time.
Comment 2 Cole Poirier 2020-06-12 17:51:58 BST
(In reply to Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton from comment #1)
> (In reply to Cole Poirier from comment #0)
> > Cole Poirier:
> they're generally unwelcome except in this case we actually have donations
> available.

Understood. I will take the time and diligence to properly respect each community's guidelines.

When it comes to contacting official university faculty/student mailing lists, the only option that I can think of is to send a polite email to the administrators of these lists at each school/department. 

In the email I will ask if they can please share with their mailing list (usually department student mailing lists will promote job/internship opportunities, ours is like a donation-based, task-completion based internship(?)) our letter that outlines an opportunity to work on a complex real world hardware and software project, as well as get paid in donations by NLNet for the tasks they complete. Is my presumption correct, or is there a better method you can recommend? 

> it is however necessary to carefully research each organisation and find out.
> 
> for example, the FSF takes a dim view of recruitment spam on its losts. 
> they have a special "jobs" board.  you have to give a small donation to use
> it.
> 
> except... we are not *looking* for "jobs" because we are not a commercial
> entity.

Indeed, I have been and will continue to be very careful to assert this essential distinction in my communications about this.

> sigh.
> 
> so on that one we fall between two stools.

Don't despair, I'll be trying to put some significant effort into this, because you've already being at it for years, but now I think you really have more important things to take care of and devote your focus to. 

May I be delegated the task of recruitment (non-commercial 'contracted' work on tasks that are eligible for donations)? I will keep the project informed of my efforts here... Well actually I think I'll create a new bug for this under the new top-level "Libre-SOC Organization" bugzilla product. I understand that this task requires tact, patience, and a lot of time. I am willing to devote the necessary effort and time, and would like to be explicitly delegated this task so that I can work on this officially. I'd like some guidelines from the project members as to how I should represent Libre-SOC in my communications, and further input on what I should do, as this will be my responsibility, however I am not solely 'in charge' of this because that is explicitly not how our organization is structured.

> yes, basically, each organisation will have some interaction guidelines, and
> i would recommend contacting the organisers privately to ask their advice.
> 
> this will take time.

Your tact is something I will ensure to preserve in my communications on behalf of the project.
Comment 3 Cole Poirier 2020-06-12 18:09:01 BST
Migrated to new toplevel "Libre-SOC Organization"

Bug 380 - First round of recruitment attempts on university and technical mailing lists
<https://bugs.libre-soc.org/show_bug.cgi?id=380>
Comment 4 Cole Poirier 2020-06-12 18:09:19 BST

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 380 ***