Bug 480 - test and arrange a new home for conference calls.
Summary: test and arrange a new home for conference calls.
Alias: None
Product: Libre-SOC Organisation
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Planning (show other bugs)
Version: unspecified
Hardware: Other Linux
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Assignee: Alain D D Williams
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Reported: 2020-08-28 13:45 BST by Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
Modified: 2020-11-04 18:12 GMT (History)
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Description Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton 2020-08-28 13:45:57 BST
we need this quite rapidly, next call is 10 sep

options include:

* mumble
* zoom
* webex
* jitsi
* webrtc.sipthor.net
* freeconferencecalls.com
* bluejeans

what "features" do we need?
Comment 1 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton 2020-08-28 13:47:57 BST
Comment 2 Jacob Lifshay 2020-08-28 14:30:40 BST
I'm somewhat biased toward jitsi since it's open-source and I've heard good things about it from multiple people. I haven't actually tried it myself.
Comment 3 Cole Poirier 2020-08-28 20:16:38 BST
(In reply to Jacob Lifshay from comment #2)
> I'm somewhat biased toward jitsi since it's open-source and I've heard good
> things about it from multiple people. I haven't actually tried it myself.

Same here. Since I've been assigned responsibility for this, I'll handle this tomorrow and have something for us sometime on Saturday. Cheers.
Comment 4 Jacob Lifshay 2020-08-28 20:37:44 BST
some data for if we want to run our own jitsi server:
Comment 5 Cole Poirier 2020-08-30 04:22:09 BST
Jisti Meet (https://meet.jit.si/) seems to work, although it works by typing a name for a meeting, which is then the id for the meeting (with an optional numeric id, to be used for phone dial in, which seems to work well also), where the meeting name/id is only reserved when you start it, i.e. upon entering the name and clicking start, I would create a meeting room called LSOCSyncMKII, I would then be the only one in the meeting room and get to enable the waiting room functionality (pretty much exactly like zoom's waiting room), and set a password for the meeting. After the meeting ends, someone else could theoretically use that meeting ID, there is no reservation or scheduling of meetings. That being said, apparently a meeting name will keep the same numeric ID for 30 days such that if the same meeting name is used those calling in via phone will be able to use the same numeric ID. I see no problem with using this for our next Libre-SOC-Microwatt-OPF-Raptor meeting, I will set it up and send the email next weekend, however, I would strongly recommend that for subsequent meetings, we set up our own jitsi server, as it is very low resource utilization (as jacob linked to on the mailing list), and this will enable persistence (using the same meeting link for as long as we please), meeting scheduling, and would generally be nice and more professional (oh and be cool because then we control the security, even though meet.jit.si is encrypted, and they state on their website that they don't share or sell your data, as a libre project self-hosting our video/audio communications, just like we do our textual ones would be good).
Comment 6 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton 2020-08-30 11:10:30 BST
alain can we do a test on this and see about installing it on libre-soc.org?

Comment 7 Jacob Lifshay 2020-08-30 17:39:50 BST
Be aware that even though it doesn't use very much cpu or ram, it can still use a lot of network data which can hit mythic-beasts' limit quickly.
Comment 8 Alain D D Williams 2020-09-01 13:01:03 BST
I would strongly recommend using meet.jit.si -- it just works and there is little effort in setting up a meeting.

A group of us have been using it weekly (almost) since lock down in the UK (mid March). You need a machine with 4GB RAM**. Meetings generally 6-10 people, been up to 12 - no problems.

No software needs to be downloaded, just use a web browser. No need to login/register. Joining a meeting can be password protected (if you want). The only downside compared to Zoom is there is not a dial-up (ie 'phone) option.

You can put it on your own machine. I am working with a company who have done it. Installed on a Debian machine (I tried a couple of CentOS releases ... gave up). However to get it working as we wanted has taken someone a lot of time. It is a huge Java application.

Summary: just use meet.jit.si

** 4GB - yes. I was running it from my laptop (2GB Linux Mint, Firefox) and it kind of worked if I killed off lots of other processes, reduced video quality (or better switch it off - audio only) - but very often I sounded like a Dalek to others.

I was unable to get a web-cam ... then my son found one in a supermarket, so I was able to use on my desktop (32 GB RAM, CentOS 6) and it was a completely different experience - vastly better.

My desktop is also wired via UTP (cable) to my router, not Wifi -- but I do not believe that that was the issue.
Comment 9 Alain D D Williams 2020-09-04 11:25:36 BST
I have just found out that you can connect to a conference call at meet.jit.si by telephone. Use one of the numbers below, you will be asked for a PIN. I have tried it, it works.

US      +1 512 647 1431 

UK      +44 20 3885 2179 

France  +33 1 87 21 0005 

Germany +49 89 380 38719 

Netherlands     +31 85 208 1541 

Spain   +34 932 205 409 

Canada  +1 437 538 3987 

Australia       +61 8 7150 1136 

Brazil  +55 21 3500 0112 

Japan   +81 3 4510 2372 

Switzerland     +41 61 588 0496